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The 10 Biggest Mistakes Westerners Make With Thai Girls
The 10 Biggest Mistakes Westerners Make With Thai Girls

By Codefreeze
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There is no doubt that Thai women are among the most beautiful in the world. They are a magnet for Western men, who, perhaps feeling underappreciated and unloved in their own countries, come to Thailand in search of love. These Western guys become deeply attracted to the Thai ladies’ femininity, grace, beauty and, I use this word very explicitly, charm. Charm is an influence with magical connotations, and there is many a Western guy who has fallen under the magical spell of a Thai lady.

The relationship that results can be an intense, emotional roller-coaster ride. It can be, and often is, the happiest time in a guy’s life. Thai women can treat their man like no other woman can. They can be the best and most caring lovers in the world. A relationship with a Thai woman can be the most wonderful experience you will have in your life – it could also turn out to be your worst nightmare. The main thing is to try and keep it a positive and happy experience.

This document is written in the spirit of helping Western guys get the most from their relationship with a Thai lady. It can be difficult and mistakes will be made, hopefully this text will help you avoid the most common ones.

10. Looking in all the wrong places.

The first mistake that guys make is looking in all the wrong places for the girl of their dreams. Give me a dollar for each guy who’d ventured into the naughty nightlife venues and lost his heart to a scheming gold digger and I’d be a very rich man! No, you are unlikely to find the girl of your dreams trawling the bars and massage parlours of Bangkok. But there are countless guys who attempt that very thing.

The Internet can work sometimes, but only as a way of initially meeting the girl. It is not a suitable means to conduct a relationship from afar.

The way to meet Thai girls is to go to Thailand for an extended period, at least a year. Stay away from the bars. Learn the language, learn the culture – just get your feet wet in Thailand. You will meet Thai girls very easily almost every day. A friendly smile is all you need sometimes to meet a nice girl – in the shopping malls, in the little coffee shops, in the road-side restaurants.

Here’s a tip for you – if you want to meet a nice girl stay away from the venues that Westerners usually frequent. Girls of less than wholesome intention will specifically target Westerner’s favourite haunts. By all means enjoy those places, just be cautious of girls you may meet there.

9. Giving her money.

If your English or American girlfriend asked you to give her an allowance of 1,000 bucks a month you’d tell her to take a hike. But when it comes to Thai girls, guys are falling over themselves to give their ‘teeruk’ their hard earned cash. I think that says a lot about the charm of Thai girls. Usually sane and intelligent guys lose all reason when their darling gives them her dazzling smile, the scent of her perfume and the light touch of her soft brown hand! It’s enough to make even the most jaded cynic cough-up at times. But resist the temptation.

Money is important in Thailand and a Thai girl can often feel unloved if you aren’t splashing gifts and money on her – but then you have to survive too.

If she needs some money for a very specific purpose and you think it’s justified and you don’t mind helping then that’s a judgement call. Beware though because you will be regaled with tales of how she lost all her own money paying for her dying mother’s operation (despite the fact her Mum at 55 looks fitter than most Western women twenty years younger), her Dad’s kidnap by terrorists dressed as monks, and that perennial classic the sick water uffalo. Sometimes the stories can be so far fetched as to be highly amusing, and all in an attempt to relieve you of your hard-earned cash.

So my advice is, treat your girl well and spoil her from time to time, but don’t become a walking ATM. If she really loves you, she will respect you all the more for it.

8. Failing to heed the red flags.

Very often a love-smitten farang will go into a curious state of denial about his Thai girl. “She is different”, “My girl would never do that” are common phrases you will hear. The truth is in Thailand you would be surprised at what can sometimes go on.

Yes in the West there are extra-marital affairs, two timing and so on, but in Thailand it’s on a whole other level. When I was a Thailand newbie I commented to an long term expat in Bangkok that I wasn’t aware of many famous Thai people (with the exception of Tata Young of course J) such as scientists, novelists, inventors or Nobel Prize winners, his curt reply was “they are all too busy having sex”. While maybe a little churlish there is a grain of truth in it.

Relationships in Thailand can be fragile and volatile. Even by their mid- twenties most Thai girls will have had their hearts broken badly by a Thai man and tend to adopt a “never put all your eggs in one basket” approach. This is particularly true when they are in “husband hunting mode”.

Let’s face it there is no shortage of guys (Western and Thai) in Thailand, but finding a good husband is very difficult for a number of reasons (which I won’t go into here).

When you have just started dating a Thai girl and she is swearing her undying love to you, accept it graciously and take it with a pinch of salt. Enjoy the relationship for what it is, but don’t get too excited just yet. You need to give it time. Keep observant and the clues will start to come. The furtive phone conversations, the little (and big) lies, the unexpected trips to visit the sick water buffalo. Very often the hazy evidence of a “background boyfriend” will materialise. I have even unwittingly been one myself.

All’s fair in love and war, and never more so than in Thailand.

Watch for red flags carefully, assess them logically. Just don’t pretend they never happened.

7. Going for Long Distance.

If you are expecting to maintain an “exclusive” long distance relationship with a Thai girl over a period of many months then think again. As one American expat so neatly put it – “time to wake up and smell the coffee”! You are setting yourself up for heart-ache if you think otherwise.

If you do meet a Thai girl via the Internet (not really recommended) and you genuinely want to pursue the relationship then it is imperative you get to Thailand as fast as possible for an extended stay. By that I mean a minimum of 6 months and ideally a year or more. There are lots of reasons for this. Very often a Thai girl will say she doesn’t have a “boyfriend” (and she can be vague about the actual definition of boyfriend as it suits her too) – however, it his highly unlikely that she doesn’t have at least one guy lurking in the background. The truth may be more along the lines of she has a couple of “friends” but is looking to upgrade, or catch a guy more suitable for marriage. By being on the ground you have more chance to push these guys out of her life (but don’t count on it) and at least you will be able to more easily determine the presence of other suitors. It’s almost impossible to do this from afar.

When you are in a LDR, and she is sending you her glam shots, it’s very easy to conjure up an image of a “perfect person”. She might seem perfect at long range, but the reality may be very different. You need to be “on the ground” in Thailand to make a proper assessment.

A lot of guys who meet a Thai girl on the Internet put from their minds the less than wholesome realities. Thai girls are highly sexed and they are unlikely to “go without” for more than a couple of weeks – let alone a couple of months.

The other aspect is that there are huge numbers of other Western guys on the Internet (not to mention Bangkok itself) and some of them may very well be chatting up your ‘teeruk’ and several may be shortly about to land in Bangkok International Airport.

As you can probably tell, I’m not a huge fan of LDRs with Thai girls. It’s much better to get to Thailand and then start looking. It is also possible to find Thai girls in your own country (if you know where to look). This can be a great solution, but competition is fierce for these girls and all of the same “rules of engagement” apply.

Do yourself a favour, don’t strike up a “serious” long distance relationship with a Thai girl. You will have fewer grey hairs as a result.

6. Failing to wear a condom.

I really shouldn’t have to say this, but it looks like I do.

Guys are opening themselves up to a potential world of hurt by not doing so. Right now in Thailand there are guys having unprotected sex with bar girls, let alone good girls. They are then surprised when they get hit with the “you got me pregnant scam” and haven’t a clue whether they, or some other Western or even Thai guy is the father.

Quite apart from the physical health implications of not wearing a condom (AIDS/HIV is very much present in Thailand), do you really want to risk getting a girl you don’t really know pregnant? Yes, she may look like an angel and butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth, yes you may be both madly in love, yes you may be on cloud nine, yes she might claim to be a 32 year old virgin, but wear a condom anyway.

Thai girls can have a laissez-faire attitude to using protection, so you have to stand firm, so to speak.

The wise man always wears a party hat. Enough said.

5. Not setting some ground rules.

You may have a very clear idea of what constitutes proper behaviour in a relationship, but a Thai girl’s idea may be very different to it!

So that there can be no “misunderstandings” it often pays to be upfront about what you expect from your girlfriend fairly early on. You can also point out to your girl what will happen if she does overstep the mark – you will find someone else. This might sound a bit heavy handed, but it can work. If a girl then steps over the line you’ve both agreed on, you can be sure that it won’t be the last time (and probably wasn’t the first time either).

So draw a line in the sand and if she crosses it hit the highway.

4. Not breaking cleanly on game over

There is a very curious fact about Thai girls that you should be aware of. When a relationship finishes with a guy, he goes into “suspended animation” as far as the girl is concerned. From time to time she will “ping” the suspended guy to make sure he’s still breathing, usually via a text, email or phone call. At some point in time, determined by the vagaries of a Thai girl’s love-life she may attempt to reanimate said guy. This may or may not be a successful operation.

I have known of relationships with Thai girls that have “ended” and then actually soldiered on in various states of reactivation for many months, and on one occasion years!

It’s usually best to finish as cleanly as possible with a Thai girl when you realise it’s not going to work out long-term. It’s the fairest thing to do. Once you’ve made your decision, don’t change your mind and don’t let yourself be sucked back in – you’ll typically live to regret it if you do.

3. Not getting to know her friends and family

One of the best ways to really get to know the reality (rather than the projected image) of your Thai girlfriend is to meet her friends and the later on her family. She may initially be very cautious about introducing you to her friends, but I think it’s something worth pushing for as soon as possible, as it can be highly informative. When you do meet them observe very carefully and note your general impressions.

Meeting the family, in the family home can be even more revealing – but this isn’t likely to happen until you get to the “serious” stage.

The above two situations deserve an article in their own right. The main point to remember is try not to let her keep you lurking in the background too long – getting into her closer circles of friends can be fun, and very revealing.

2. Getting too serious, too quickly

This one really bugs me. I’ve known guys who meet a girl online, fly into Bangkok and who are literally married and on honeymoon within a week. If it does work out then that’s fine. But personally I believe this is an extremely reckless thing to do. It just isn’t possible to really know any girl, let alone a girl from a completely different culture, in that sort of time frame. I believe it takes a lot longer than that to really know the true nature of a Thai girl.

Here are my general suggestions. The dating period should be at least 3 months assuming you meet up twice a week. If you are getting serious about the girl and thinking of something longer term, I would suggest living together for at least six months before thinking of getting married. You may determine long before that she isn’t right for you. If you are a complete newbie to Thai girls, Thailand and Thai culture, then you might want to consider spending a year in Thailand, dating various girls, before living with one.

There are lots of reasons for taking it slow, not least because it can allow time for various “worms” to crawl out of that beautiful brown woodwork – if indeed they are present.

A word to the wise - the truth will always come out. It will, but very often you need to give it some time to do so. Never rush into a relationship with a Thai girl – or any other girl for that matter. It’s particularly vital to adopt this slow and steady approach in Thailand as you will need time to adjust to and understand that things aren’t always as they first appear in Thailand.

1. Underestimating the culture gap.

“Please mind The Gap” is something that should be stamped on your forehead as you pass through immigration at Bangkok International Airport.

This is the big enchilada, the numero uno, the Big Daddy of all mistakes that Westerners make when they go to Thailand.

Most farangs go to Thailand with the impression that Thai women are small, brown, cute versions of Western women. It is most definitely a wrong impression. Thailand is so different in so many ways, and Westerners so different to Thais in so many ways. I guess that is part of the attraction of Thailand.

The most common mistake that Westerners make is to underestimate the differences between the two cultures. Thai women have different attitudes to many aspects of life including, but not limited to, relationships, sex, love, marriage, money, and morality.

You need to understand that the Thai brain is wired differently to the Western brain. In the West we tend to think in a very binary way – on, off, true, false, yes, no. In Thailand things tend to be true to “a lesser or greater degree”.

Remember in Thailand there are many shades of grey.

Summary

So, remember there is a beautiful Thai lady awaiting you in the Land of Smiles – but the right one will not be so easy to find. Take time to learn the language and culture and enjoy relationships early on without becoming too involved, at least until you have found your way in Thailand. Remember too that all that glitters is not gold.
 
Nordstroem
Det var ganske godt indslag. Jeg sad forleden og skrev lidt på The Nation's blog sider hvor der er mange faranger som skriver, og det kom vi ind på nogenlunde det samme, men at der er kæmpe stor forskel på faranger og Thaier, og at de piger skal man passe på, da mange af dem ikke har rent mel i posen efter Danske standart.

Men det er da en artikkle som kunne være god at sende til dem man kender som lige vil et smut herud Smile

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Locturian
Artiklen er god og informerende, og måske nyttig for dem som har lyst til at indlede et forhold til en pige fra Thailand. Desværre er den nok lidt for sen at læse for de fleste, da de fleste nok ikke på forhånd ved, at nu skal de snart indlede et forhold til en thai-pige. Det sker ligsom bare, og så er de allerede så langt inde i det, at det er for sent. Men meget morsomt for os andre at læse, der kan nikke genkendede til mange af tingene Smile
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Payanak
Ja, masser af sandheder i den artikel.

Burde vaere obligatorisk laesning for alle, som er nye mht. Thailand og det thailandske.
 
Nordstroem
Måske få den trykt some leaflet og udlevere med billetten til Thailand? hehe

Jeg kan lige se Hr og Fru Jensen som skal sende deres søn på ferie, sikke en gang panik, og her troede sønnen at han skulle ud og finde sit livs oplevelse, hehe


Nordstroem
 
Thai Bar Girl's Ten Commandments
From Night Owl, Bangkok Post.

1. Late week, specifically Friday and Saturday, many locally employed walking ATM machines will come to your bar. Choose carefully! Some have money, but others do not! If he is wearing a suit and tie, check that the tie is not a Pratunam special and check that he isn't wearing tennis shoes.
If either of these are in the affirmative, forget him because he is likely an English teacher, and they will give you peanuts _ that is if they give you anything at all.

2. No matter how fat and ugly he is, no matter how bad he may smell, no matter how drunk he is, make sure you always tell him how handsome he is. Sit close to him and run your hands over his body, arousing him.

As soon as he has paid the bar fine, you can stand clear of him. Even if he knows that you despise his ugly butt, he'll still pay you. The hard part is getting him to pay the bar, and as soon as you have done that, the rest is easy.

3. Start collecting email addresses from all of your customers. And once you have a good collection of addresses, a visit to your local Internet cafe is in order. All of those email addressees should be sent an email. Simply change the name on each email and send it off to all of the guys. If you can remember something specific about them, mention that in the email too.

These walking ATMs all have a soft heart, so you need to tell them a story to get them to send you some of their riches. Start with a sick buffalo and if he doesn't reply, next tell him that your mother is sick. As a last resort, if he still doesn't send any money, tell him you are pregnant and the baby is his!

4. Practice crying on cue. It is essential that you can produce tears immediately. This will have the effect of helping the walking ATM machine to see things your way!

5. When you get a customer for an extended period of time, make sure he takes you shopping, with rarn tong (gold shop) the best place to visit. Make sure he buys you gold and if he doesn't, see rule 4! As soon as he has left Thailand, take the gold back to the shop and sell it straight back to them, thus increasing your pay out.

6. When locally based farangs are inside the bars, do not speak in Thai with your friends in the bar but rather use Lao, Khmer or any other dialects that you may know.

It's bad enough that some of them can speak and even read Thai, but Lao and Khmer should be kept as sacrosanct. Under no circumstances should the farang be taught our regional dialects.

7. Always see him off at the airport. Thai currency cannot be used in his country, so it is highly likely that he will give you all of his leftover baht as he leaves and says goodbye.

While accompanying him to the airport, prevent him buying going-away gifts for his family and friends in his homeland. Which leaves more for you.

8. See Asian customers. They understand that we like to gamble, and they understand that we have lots of unemployed brothers and sisters who need to eat. Therefore, they pay a lot better than the farangs.

9. Remember, when you get paid, you must always ask for taxi money and give him the excuse that taxi drivers cannot give change on big notes. Don't let him see the small change in your wallet. If taxi money isn't forthcoming, see rule 4.

10. If you are no longer making money in Bangkok, move down to Phuket where you will be able to start making money again. Give Phuket a few years, then move on to Pattaya. Even if you are approaching 50, it is no problem as the walking ATM machines seem to be blind in Pattaya.
 
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Hejsa

Det er skræmmende men hovedet på det søm kunne næsten ikke være større, dermed svært ikke at ramme...

Det er sørgeligt at det er sådan, men det er mere sørgeligt at trods alt denne information, er der konstant og hele tiden stadig folk der falder for disse "tricks" og kvinder med skjulte talenter og punger ud i stride strømme.....
 
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MortenDue
Dette er ikke et synspunkt på kvinder.....

Men i tråd med de to første mangler der så ikke en med overskriften:

DE 10 BUD TIL ANSKAFFELSE AF DIN PERSONLIGE SLAVE:

1: Vis hende du har penge - så hun ved du kan forsørge hende
2: Sig du elsker hende - så du smelter hendes hjerte
3: Lav regler fra første øjeblik - som HUN skal følge
4: Bestem alt - så hun bliver underdaning
....... tjaaa, min fantasi her tidligt om morgenen er ikke lige hvad den har været... fyld selv resten ud

10: Hvis hun går til politiet - benægt alt!!!!!

For der findes jo også thai-kvinder der tror på kærligheden og vil forfølge denne sammen med en mand hun er blevet overbevist om er god for hende..... og mænd som som vil udnytte dette!!!!!
Chance favours the prepared mind
 
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Payanak
Ajarn skrev:
Burde vaere obligatorisk laesning for alle, som er nye mht. Thailand og det thailandske.


Regel 10 er jeg dog ikke helt enig i.
Pigerne starter nok snarere paa Phuket, hvorefter de tager til enten Pattaya eller Bang cock.
Der er selvfoelgelig ogsaa nybegyndere i baade Pattaya og Bangkok, men Bkk luderne er simpelthen for 'hardcore' til at kunne finde sig i Phukets 'redneck Isarnkoloniagtige Det lille hus paa praerien' livstil.

Kilde: Undertegnedes fleraarige intensive og grundige deepundercover research i det thailandske underground khon kai tua miljoe Cool
 
Ajarn skrev:
Ajarn skrev:
Burde vaere obligatorisk laesning for alle, som er nye mht. Thailand og det thailandske.


Regel 10 er jeg dog ikke helt enig i.
Pigerne starter nok snarere paa Phuket, hvorefter de tager til enten Pattaya eller Bang cock.
Der er selvfoelgelig ogsaa nybegyndere i baade Pattaya og Bangkok, men Bkk luderne er simpelthen for 'hardcore' til at kunne finde sig i Phukets 'redneck Isarnkoloniagtige Det lille hus paa praerien' livstil.

Kilde: Undertegnedes fleraarige intensive og grundige deepundercover research i det thailandske underground khon kai tua miljoe Cool



Det er noget være sludder du lukker ud her Ajarn. Med det lille kendskab du har til dette emne, ville jeg anbefale dig at studere emnet lidt mere.
At phuket har haft en explosiv udvikling i de sidste par år er såment sandt nok, men thailand er nu størrer end phuket og bkk.
Hvis jeg ikke husker helt forkert, så skrev du selv for ganske nyelig at du var for første gang i patty, og nu udtaler du dig som expert!!
Gaaaab for en opblæst drenge røv




dsd

Redigeret af d. 06/02-2007 12:19
 
Payanak
Ha ha ha...
Det var dog utroligt saa serioes man kan blive over et indlaeg som er skrevet paa en dybt ironisk facon.
Mon ikke du skulle proeve at laese mit indlaeg EN GANG TIL...
Og ja ja du ved alt om hvor ofte jeg har vaeret i 'PATTY'...
Men du har ret i at jeg har et meget lille kendskab til emnet, da jeg naturligvis aldrig har stiftet bekendskab med prostituerede Grin
 
Davs Ajarn

At alle dine indlæg er ironiske, er da umuligt at tyde, for du markerer dig altid med skråsikker ekspert udsagn om det thailandske prostitutions miljø, men din erfaring er måske kun noget du har læst dig til?. Jeg kan sq huske, at du postede et indlæg for ganske kort tid siden, hvor du proklameret, at du lige var hjemkommet fra din første weekend i patty. Så din erfaring med patty er vel minimal?
At du nu postulerer, at du slet ingen kendskab har til prostitueret, tvivler jeg dog stærkt på. Grin

dsd

Redigeret af d. 06/02-2007 22:48
 
De fleste ludere i thailand har lokale kunder, men vi lever i en globalverden, og pigerne ved jo godt hvor pengene er, Cool
 
Payanak
Ajarn skrev:
Bkk luderne er simpelthen for 'hardcore' til at kunne finde sig i Phukets 'redneck Isarnkoloniagtige Det lille hus paa praerien' livstil.

Kilde: Undertegnedes fleraarige intensive og grundige deepundercover research i det thailandske underground khon kai tua miljoe Cool


Ok deepseadivers Grin

Jeg skal nok i fremtiden huske paa at du, efter eget udsagn, laeser som fandens laeser biblen Pfft

Der er jo ikke noget ironisk i dette jeg tidligere skrev. Det siger deepseadivers selv Shock

Og ok jeg har naturligvis moedt en barpige eller to, men det var foer jeg ogsaa begyndte at faa det gratis andre steder. Derfor maa jeg jo nok boeje mig og give dig ret i at du har et meget stoerre kendskab til koebesex end jeg har Pfft
 


Ajarn

Du kan være helt sikker på at jeg kan læse. Men at du bruger ironi er sq svært at forstå, og det strider i øvrigt også mod DTW’s reglement.

Læs venligst: §3 - Brug ikke sarkasme og ironi i seriøse debatter.
Det du selv opfatter som en uskyldig spøg, kan og vil ofte blive misforstået af folk du ikke kender. Hvis en anden person reagerer negativt på dine forsøg på humor, er det sandsynligt at du slet ikke er morsom men irriterende.


Mit kendskab til prostitution var nu ikke det vi diskutere. Det kan vi tage en anden gang. Men mere dine konstante uvidende udmeldinger vedr. samme emne.
Nu erkender du jo selv, at du har en lille viden om emnet Så for man da lyst til at spørge, hvorfor du så konstant markerer dig i samtlige tråde vedr. dette emne.

Så lige for sidst gang, hvad er dit kendskab til patty?

dsd


Ps. Nu når du alligevel er varm, så kunne du måske smide en kommentar til dette indlæg, som jeg tidligere har postet. Det beskriver nemlig så smukt dig og dine kollegaers karriere. GrinGrinGrin

Teaching English is the ideal choice for a gap-year stud or a middle-aged gentleman of leisure who needs to get out of the house (or the bar) for a few days a week but it's hardly a career. Despite the poor prospects, however, Bangkok is awash with whiteboard warriors clad in their poverty-dictated uniform of a polyester tie, cheap shoes and a shoulder bag.

A man in his thirties dressed like this has clearly been here too long. When he says "I'm a sort of corporate facilitator developing core competencies in the management field" you can almost feel the heat from his burning sense of shame.

Teaching English amounts to career suicide. Regardless of how professional you might be, everyone assumes that you're just another John Mark Karr and, when you finally give up and go home, you've rendered yourself practically unemployable because your contemporaries already have ten years relevant experience.

Even if you're on an expat package, a stint in Thailand amounts to a stain on your character. Assignments in Hong Kong or Singapore might be good for the CV but, if you disclose to potential employers that you've been working in Bangkok, it's probably going to act against you.

Better to tell them that you've been in prison
 
Payanak
Tak for kaffe Grin
Spis piller til...
 
LMAO Ajarn

Piller har jeg heldigvis, næsten aldrig brug for. Jeg morer mig nemlig bravt, over de pip der kommer fra en oppustet fugleunge.

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Det er da godt I kan smile lidt af det begge to, jeg var ellers ved at være bange for at I var blevet ringforlovet.

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